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Quick Takes: With Bonds, Higher Rates Can Lead to Higher Returns

While markets are inherently unpredictable, there is little doubt that rates today are more attractive than they’ve been in a very long time – and increase the appeal of fixed income for longer term investors because they signal higher future returns.

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Klein: Investors today are able to enjoy yields that they haven’t seen for almost a generation.

While many market participants expect inflation - a key driver of those higher yields – to moderate in 2023, the ultimate economic environment will obviously impact the level of interest rates and asset returns.

FULL PAGE GRAPHIC: TITLE – Sample yield curve scenarios over a multi-year horizon, Sub-heading: Core bond returns: realized vs. simulated

Description: The graphic displays two bar graphs arranged side-by-side, with a summary box below them. The first graph measures the 1-year return of core bond portfolios across five different scenarios. The first scenario is the historical realized return, while the second, third, fourth, and fifth scenarios are simulated scenarios. They simulate the traditional growth, goldilocks, recession, and stagflation scenarios, respectively. The 1-year graph shows core bond portfolios declining by 8.1% and 2.8% in the historical and traditional growth scenarios, respectively, and appreciating by 2.2%, 10.1%, and 3.2%, respectively, in the simulated goldilocks, recession, and stagflation scenarios. The second graph measures the 5-year return of core bond portfolios across the same five scenarios measured in the first graph. In the 5-year graph, all 5 scenarios are positive— the historical realized, traditional growth, goldilocks, recession, and stagflation all report appreciation in value. The four simulated scenarios report approximately 4-5% appreciation, while the historical realized scenario reports 0.7% appreciation. The summary box below the two charts states the following: “Core bond returns are positive in the long run under a wide range of macro scenarios,” and “Forward-looking returns for core bonds are stronger than recent historical returns.”

Now, it’s no secret that rate increases lower bond prices, but higher rates today may potentially lead to higher returns in the future.  In core bonds for example, we estimate that after only five years, most of any initial rate shock washes out and it is instead the initial valuations that determine the final outcomes.  

Today, those valuations are quite attractive. And attractive valuations in fixed income come with more confidence than they do for other asset classes.

For example, when we think about the fair value of equities, a common starting point is the cyclically adjusted earnings yield.

This is a calculation that looks at long term corporate earnings relative to the market’s total price. 

FULL PAGE GRAPHIC: TITLE – Valuations vs. future performance in equities and fixed income, Sub-heading: Returns tend to be more predictable in credit than equities.

Description: The graphic displays two line charts arranged side-by-side, with a table below them. The first chart measures the expected returns of the S&P 500 against the S&P 500’s 5-year forward realized return, over the period spanning from 1987 to 2022. The second chart measures the expected returns of the Bloomberg US Corporate High Yield Bond Index against the Bloomberg US Corporate High Yield Bond Index’s 5-year forward realized return, also over the period spanning from 1987 to 2022. The S&P 500-focused chart shows significant variation between the expected and realized returns, while the Bloomberg US Corporate High Yield-focused chart displays a much stronger correlation between the expected and realized returns. The table below the two charts provides statistical verification for the increased correlation, noting that the S&P 500 returns, expected vs. realized, hold a 24% correlation, while the Bloomberg returns, expected vs. realized, hold a 61% correlation.

This is a standard measure of equity values and while we can see there is definitely some relationship there, it’s rather weak. While rates and earnings matter, so do those Keynesian animal spirits.

For bonds, though, we see a different picture. While there are more subtle, more powerful measures out there, we don’t have to do any special calculations to get a indication of value. Even for high yield bonds, if we just looked at historical yields, we would have known a lot more about their future performance than we ever would have with stocks.

While markets are inherently unpredictable, there is little doubt that rates today are more attractive than they have been in a very long time. Higher rates lower bond prices, sure, but they increase the appeal of fixed income for longer horizon investors because they signal higher future returns.

And that’s a signal that means a great deal more in fixed income than almost any other asset class.

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